[DAS] pinging source

Jonathan Warren jw12 at sanger.ac.uk
Tue Sep 15 17:13:01 UTC 2009


yes - sources as it normally is but without all the other sources ;)

On 15 Sep 2009, at 18:04, Andy Jenkinson wrote:

> I'm not sure if you meant the sources schema exactly as it is or to  
> make the <SOURCE> element  the root element. I would vote for the  
> former (i.e. a sources document containing one source). It makes  
> things much easier for the client and spec not to have a separate  
> schema.
>
> Regarding the XSL stylesheets, I can see where you're coming from. I  
> have some prototype stylesheets which have an option to show the XML  
> (prettied up), which I think is the best compromise.
>
> On 15 Sep 2009, at 17:56, Jonathan Warren wrote:
>
>> My vote at the moment would be to have the source element.
>>
>> On a side note: My vote would also be to not have nice human  
>> readable stylesheets at all ;) Though I accept I may be a lone  
>> voice on this one. Mainly because I want DAS to be as powerful as  
>> possible while being easy for new users to get into ( some people  
>> who have provided das sources for years have not known they could  
>> just right click and select "show source" to get the xml and see  
>> that their new elements are shown in the xml but are not in the  
>> stylesheet!!). It justs adds a layer of complexity and confusion  
>> for little gain in my opinion. The alternative would be to have raw  
>> xml as default and stylesheet as an option - presumably that could  
>> be done? Maybe I missed the whole point about putting them in?  
>> Surely people use das in a browser for discovery and testing not  
>> actually viewing data on a day to day basis?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 Sep 2009, at 17:28, Thomas Down wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Jonathan Warren  
>>> <jw12 at sanger.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've always had an issue with the commands like this http://www.ebi.ac.uk/das-srv/genomicdas/das/eqtl_rat_cis_fat 
>>>  not being a valid das command as it's the most natural request  
>>> for a person new to das to make. So giving it a specific purpose  
>>> and response is a good idea.
>>>
>>> What would you put there?  HTML "welcome" information (which seems  
>>> to be ProServer's current behaviour)?  DAS XML?  (in which case...  
>>> the relevant SOURCE element, or something else)?  DAS XML with  
>>> some strong encouragement for servers to attach a stylesheet to  
>>> turn it into something readable if you hit it with a browser?
>>>
>>> Currently, Dazzle just returns an error, because it interacts  
>>> rather nastily with the way Dazzle supports hierarchical  
>>> datasource namespaces.  Having said that, the original use case  
>>> for these hasn't really materialized, so it wouldn't be a big deal  
>>> to strip this out.
>>>
>>>              Thomas.
>>
>> Jonathan Warren
>> Senior Developer and DAS coordinator
>> jw12 at sanger.ac.uk
>> Ext: 2314
>> Telephone: 01223 492314
>>
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>

Jonathan Warren
Senior Developer and DAS coordinator
jw12 at sanger.ac.uk
Ext: 2314
Telephone: 01223 492314







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 Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a 
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