[DAS] pinging source

Andy Jenkinson andy.jenkinson at ebi.ac.uk
Tue Sep 15 17:04:03 UTC 2009


I'm not sure if you meant the sources schema exactly as it is or to  
make the <SOURCE> element  the root element. I would vote for the  
former (i.e. a sources document containing one source). It makes  
things much easier for the client and spec not to have a separate  
schema.

Regarding the XSL stylesheets, I can see where you're coming from. I  
have some prototype stylesheets which have an option to show the XML  
(prettied up), which I think is the best compromise.

On 15 Sep 2009, at 17:56, Jonathan Warren wrote:

> My vote at the moment would be to have the source element.
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> On a side note: My vote would also be to not have nice human  
> readable stylesheets at all ;) Though I accept I may be a lone voice  
> on this one. Mainly because I want DAS to be as powerful as possible  
> while being easy for new users to get into ( some people who have  
> provided das sources for years have not known they could just right  
> click and select "show source" to get the xml and see that their new  
> elements are shown in the xml but are not in the stylesheet!!). It  
> justs adds a layer of complexity and confusion for little gain in my  
> opinion. The alternative would be to have raw xml as default and  
> stylesheet as an option - presumably that could be done? Maybe I  
> missed the whole point about putting them in? Surely people use das  
> in a browser for discovery and testing not actually viewing data on  
> a day to day basis?
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> On 15 Sep 2009, at 17:28, Thomas Down wrote:
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>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Jonathan Warren  
>> <jw12 at sanger.ac.uk> wrote:
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>> I've always had an issue with the commands like this http://www.ebi.ac.uk/das-srv/genomicdas/das/eqtl_rat_cis_fat 
>>  not being a valid das command as it's the most natural request for  
>> a person new to das to make. So giving it a specific purpose and  
>> response is a good idea.
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>> What would you put there?  HTML "welcome" information (which seems  
>> to be ProServer's current behaviour)?  DAS XML?  (in which case...  
>> the relevant SOURCE element, or something else)?  DAS XML with some  
>> strong encouragement for servers to attach a stylesheet to turn it  
>> into something readable if you hit it with a browser?
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>> Currently, Dazzle just returns an error, because it interacts  
>> rather nastily with the way Dazzle supports hierarchical datasource  
>> namespaces.  Having said that, the original use case for these  
>> hasn't really materialized, so it wouldn't be a big deal to strip  
>> this out.
>>
>>               Thomas.
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