From Sebastien.Carrere at toulouse.inra.fr Wed Jan 27 02:35:48 2010 From: Sebastien.Carrere at toulouse.inra.fr (Sebastien Carrere) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:35:48 +0100 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? Message-ID: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> Bonjour a tous, Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable from France (for more than 12hours). Am I the only one with this problem ? Sebastien -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Sebastien_Carrere.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 387 bytes Desc: not available URL: From py at pingoured.fr Wed Jan 27 03:04:16 2010 From: py at pingoured.fr (Pierre-Yves Chibon) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:04:16 +0100 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> Message-ID: <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 08:35 +0100, Sebastien Carrere wrote: > Bonjour a tous, > > Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable > from France (for more than 12hours). > Am I the only one with this problem ? Same problem from the Netherlands --- moby.ucalgary.ca ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4761ms Pierre From alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk Wed Jan 27 05:06:52 2010 From: alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk (Alan Williams) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:06:52 +0000 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> Message-ID: <4B60103C.7050509@cs.man.ac.uk> Sebastien Carrere wrote: > Bonjour a tous, Hello > Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable > from France (for more than 12hours). > Am I the only one with this problem ? It was unreachable for a few hours yesterday (Tuesday 26th) from Manchester UK. > Sebastien Alan From gordonp at ucalgary.ca Wed Jan 27 10:34:33 2010 From: gordonp at ucalgary.ca (gordonp at ucalgary.ca) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:34:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: ICMP packets are dropped at the University's router, so ping isn't going to work even if the server is responsive, I believe (same reason that traceroute doesn't work competely). > On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 08:35 +0100, Sebastien Carrere wrote: >> Bonjour a tous, >> >> Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable >> from France (for more than 12hours). >> Am I the only one with this problem ? > > Same problem from the Netherlands > --- moby.ucalgary.ca ping statistics --- > 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4761ms > > Pierre > > _______________________________________________ > MOBY-dev mailing list > MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org > http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev > > > From gordonp at ucalgary.ca Wed Jan 27 10:31:58 2010 From: gordonp at ucalgary.ca (gordonp at ucalgary.ca) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:31:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <4B60103C.7050509@cs.man.ac.uk> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <4B60103C.7050509@cs.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <9a5130580e3c48b23ad01ec207ebe955.squirrel@webmail.ucalgary.ca> It would seem that someone was hitting it really hard, and the max number of HTTP connections for Aapache was reached (the server itself wasn't very busy). Mark, Eddie, maybe we should increase the max number of connections? > Sebastien Carrere wrote: >> Bonjour a tous, > > Hello > >> Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable >> from France (for more than 12hours). >> Am I the only one with this problem ? > > It was unreachable for a few hours yesterday (Tuesday 26th) from > Manchester UK. > >> Sebastien > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > MOBY-dev mailing list > MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org > http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev > > > From Sebastien.Carrere at toulouse.inra.fr Thu Jan 28 02:34:31 2010 From: Sebastien.Carrere at toulouse.inra.fr (Sebastien Carrere) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:34:31 +0100 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4B613E07.4070509@toulouse.inra.fr> Bonjour, it was okay yesterday afternonn, but today it seems down again. Sebastien gordonp at ucalgary.ca wrote: > ICMP packets are dropped at the University's router, so ping isn't going > to work even if the server is responsive, I believe (same reason that > traceroute doesn't work competely). > > >> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 08:35 +0100, Sebastien Carrere wrote: >> >>> Bonjour a tous, >>> >>> Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable >>> from France (for more than 12hours). >>> Am I the only one with this problem ? >>> >> Same problem from the Netherlands >> --- moby.ucalgary.ca ping statistics --- >> 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4761ms >> >> Pierre >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MOBY-dev mailing list >> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org >> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > MOBY-dev mailing list > MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org > http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Sebastien_Carrere.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 387 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk Thu Jan 28 11:15:09 2010 From: alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk (Alan Williams) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:15:09 +0000 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <4B613E07.4070509@toulouse.inra.fr> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4B613E07.4070509@toulouse.inra.fr> Message-ID: <4B61B80D.8070903@cs.man.ac.uk> Sebastien Carrere wrote: > Bonjour, > > it was okay yesterday afternonn, but today it seems down again. It is not visible from Manchester, UK either. > Sebastien Alan From markw at illuminae.com Thu Jan 28 11:58:37 2010 From: markw at illuminae.com (Mark Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:58:37 -0800 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <4B61B80D.8070903@cs.man.ac.uk> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4B613E07.4070509@toulouse.inra.fr> <4B61B80D.8070903@cs.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: Try now... Looks like something is bringing it down on a regular basis - we're looking into it. M On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:15:09 -0800, Alan Williams wrote: > Sebastien Carrere wrote: >> Bonjour, >> it was okay yesterday afternonn, but today it seems down again. > > It is not visible from Manchester, UK either. > >> Sebastien > > Alan > > > _______________________________________________ > MOBY-dev mailing list > MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org > http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev -- Mark D Wilkinson, PI Bioinformatics Assistant Professor, Medical Genetics The James Hogg iCAPTURE Centre for Cardiovascular and Pulmonary Research Providence Heart + Lung Institute University of British Columbia - St. Paul's Hospital Vancouver, BC, Canada From alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk Thu Jan 28 12:45:32 2010 From: alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk (Alan Williams) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:45:32 +0000 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4B613E07.4070509@toulouse.inra.fr> <4B61B80D.8070903@cs.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4B61CD3C.10805@cs.man.ac.uk> Mark Wilkinson wrote: > Try now... > > Looks like something is bringing it down on a regular basis - we're > looking into it. It's now visible from Manchester, UK. > M Alan From chapmanb at 50mail.com Thu Jan 28 15:35:05 2010 From: chapmanb at 50mail.com (Brad Chapman) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:35:05 -0500 Subject: [MOBY-dev] OpenBio solution challenge: Project updates at BOSC 2010 Message-ID: <20100128203505.GG40046@sobchak.mgh.harvard.edu> Hello all; The BOSC 2010 organizing committee is hard at work getting prepared for this July's meeting in Boston: http://www.open-bio.org/wiki/BOSC_2010 One of the items we've traditionally had at the conference is a project update from each of the OpenBio affiliated groups. This year, we're thinking about organizing these talks around a central theme: the OpenBio solution challenge. We start with a biological question of general interest, and each of the project talks would focus around how you would solve that problem using your toolkit and programming language. This is meant to provide a challenge for OpenBio contributors, a nice tutorial style overview of various projects and approaches for other programmers, and a fun opportunity to compete and learn from other projects. Conference attendees will vote on their favorite solution, with the winner receiving fame and fortune (warning: fortune not guaranteed). For this to be successful, it of course requires interest and enthusiasm from y'all fine folks involved with the projects. Specifically: - Is there interest from your group in participating in the challenge? You'll want at least a few people to work on it, and someone to give a presentation at BOSC. - Do you have suggestions on a good theme or specific biological problem to tackle? We'll hope to pick something in a sweet spot that is challenging enough to be of interest, yet reasonable for presentation and preparation. Let's discuss ideas and get this together. Since the schedule for BOSC is developing rapidly, please give us an idea if you're interested by February 12th, and copy responses to the BOSC mailing list as a central place for discussion. bosc at open-bio.org Thanks, Brad, Michael, and the BOSC organizing committee From markw at illuminae.com Thu Jan 28 16:16:21 2010 From: markw at illuminae.com (Mark Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:16:21 -0800 Subject: [MOBY-dev] OpenBio solution challenge: Project updates at BOSC 2010 In-Reply-To: <20100128203505.GG40046@sobchak.mgh.harvard.edu> References: <20100128203505.GG40046@sobchak.mgh.harvard.edu> Message-ID: Brad, this sounds exciting! One thing strikes me, though - by asking for the sub-projects to propose the "grand challenge" themselves the one thing you can guarantee is that the "grand challenge" is solvable (or more likely, already solved!) Other "grand challenge" kinds of meetings have an independent third party pose the problem that has to be solved, and then all groups work toward a solution and compare their results. This would, IMO, be more revealing of the "state of the art" in each Open-Bio project, and point out where the weaknesses are that we should be focusing on... Someone (for example, you!) could act as the moderator to ensure that the "grand challenge" was at least a reasonable one, within the scope of what an Open-Bio project *should* be able to solve... Just my CAD $0.02 Mark On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:35:05 -0800, Brad Chapman wrote: > Hello all; > The BOSC 2010 organizing committee is hard at work getting prepared for > this > July's meeting in Boston: > > http://www.open-bio.org/wiki/BOSC_2010 > > One of the items we've traditionally had at the conference is a project > update from each of the OpenBio affiliated groups. This year, we're > thinking > about organizing these talks around a central theme: the OpenBio solution > challenge. We start with a biological question of general interest, and > each > of the project talks would focus around how you would solve that problem > using your toolkit and programming language. > > This is meant to provide a challenge for OpenBio contributors, a nice > tutorial > style overview of various projects and approaches for other programmers, > and a > fun opportunity to compete and learn from other projects. Conference > attendees > will vote on their favorite solution, with the winner receiving fame and > fortune (warning: fortune not guaranteed). > > For this to be successful, it of course requires interest and enthusiasm > from > y'all fine folks involved with the projects. Specifically: > > - Is there interest from your group in participating in the challenge? > You'll > want at least a few people to work on it, and someone to give a > presentation > at BOSC. > > - Do you have suggestions on a good theme or specific biological problem > to > tackle? We'll hope to pick something in a sweet spot that is > challenging > enough to be of interest, yet reasonable for presentation and > preparation. > > Let's discuss ideas and get this together. Since the schedule for BOSC is > developing rapidly, please give us an idea if you're interested by > February 12th, and copy responses to the BOSC mailing list as a central > place for discussion. > > bosc at open-bio.org > > Thanks, > Brad, Michael, and the BOSC organizing committee > _______________________________________________ > MOBY-dev mailing list > MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org > http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev -- Mark D Wilkinson, PI Bioinformatics Assistant Professor, Medical Genetics The James Hogg iCAPTURE Centre for Cardiovascular and Pulmonary Research Providence Heart + Lung Institute University of British Columbia - St. Paul's Hospital Vancouver, BC, Canada From Sebastien.Carrere at toulouse.inra.fr Wed Jan 27 07:35:48 2010 From: Sebastien.Carrere at toulouse.inra.fr (Sebastien Carrere) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:35:48 +0100 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? Message-ID: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> Bonjour a tous, Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable from France (for more than 12hours). Am I the only one with this problem ? Sebastien -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Sebastien_Carrere.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 387 bytes Desc: not available URL: From py at pingoured.fr Wed Jan 27 08:04:16 2010 From: py at pingoured.fr (Pierre-Yves Chibon) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:04:16 +0100 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> Message-ID: <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 08:35 +0100, Sebastien Carrere wrote: > Bonjour a tous, > > Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable > from France (for more than 12hours). > Am I the only one with this problem ? Same problem from the Netherlands --- moby.ucalgary.ca ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4761ms Pierre From alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk Wed Jan 27 10:06:52 2010 From: alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk (Alan Williams) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:06:52 +0000 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> Message-ID: <4B60103C.7050509@cs.man.ac.uk> Sebastien Carrere wrote: > Bonjour a tous, Hello > Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable > from France (for more than 12hours). > Am I the only one with this problem ? It was unreachable for a few hours yesterday (Tuesday 26th) from Manchester UK. > Sebastien Alan From gordonp at ucalgary.ca Wed Jan 27 15:34:33 2010 From: gordonp at ucalgary.ca (gordonp at ucalgary.ca) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:34:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: ICMP packets are dropped at the University's router, so ping isn't going to work even if the server is responsive, I believe (same reason that traceroute doesn't work competely). > On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 08:35 +0100, Sebastien Carrere wrote: >> Bonjour a tous, >> >> Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable >> from France (for more than 12hours). >> Am I the only one with this problem ? > > Same problem from the Netherlands > --- moby.ucalgary.ca ping statistics --- > 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4761ms > > Pierre > > _______________________________________________ > MOBY-dev mailing list > MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org > http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev > > > From gordonp at ucalgary.ca Wed Jan 27 15:31:58 2010 From: gordonp at ucalgary.ca (gordonp at ucalgary.ca) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:31:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <4B60103C.7050509@cs.man.ac.uk> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <4B60103C.7050509@cs.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <9a5130580e3c48b23ad01ec207ebe955.squirrel@webmail.ucalgary.ca> It would seem that someone was hitting it really hard, and the max number of HTTP connections for Aapache was reached (the server itself wasn't very busy). Mark, Eddie, maybe we should increase the max number of connections? > Sebastien Carrere wrote: >> Bonjour a tous, > > Hello > >> Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable >> from France (for more than 12hours). >> Am I the only one with this problem ? > > It was unreachable for a few hours yesterday (Tuesday 26th) from > Manchester UK. > >> Sebastien > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > MOBY-dev mailing list > MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org > http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev > > > From Sebastien.Carrere at toulouse.inra.fr Thu Jan 28 07:34:31 2010 From: Sebastien.Carrere at toulouse.inra.fr (Sebastien Carrere) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:34:31 +0100 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4B613E07.4070509@toulouse.inra.fr> Bonjour, it was okay yesterday afternonn, but today it seems down again. Sebastien gordonp at ucalgary.ca wrote: > ICMP packets are dropped at the University's router, so ping isn't going > to work even if the server is responsive, I believe (same reason that > traceroute doesn't work competely). > > >> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 08:35 +0100, Sebastien Carrere wrote: >> >>> Bonjour a tous, >>> >>> Once again the moby central (http://moby.ucalgary.ca/) is unreachable >>> from France (for more than 12hours). >>> Am I the only one with this problem ? >>> >> Same problem from the Netherlands >> --- moby.ucalgary.ca ping statistics --- >> 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4761ms >> >> Pierre >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MOBY-dev mailing list >> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org >> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > MOBY-dev mailing list > MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org > http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Sebastien_Carrere.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 387 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk Thu Jan 28 16:15:09 2010 From: alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk (Alan Williams) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:15:09 +0000 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <4B613E07.4070509@toulouse.inra.fr> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4B613E07.4070509@toulouse.inra.fr> Message-ID: <4B61B80D.8070903@cs.man.ac.uk> Sebastien Carrere wrote: > Bonjour, > > it was okay yesterday afternonn, but today it seems down again. It is not visible from Manchester, UK either. > Sebastien Alan From markw at illuminae.com Thu Jan 28 16:58:37 2010 From: markw at illuminae.com (Mark Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:58:37 -0800 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: <4B61B80D.8070903@cs.man.ac.uk> References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4B613E07.4070509@toulouse.inra.fr> <4B61B80D.8070903@cs.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: Try now... Looks like something is bringing it down on a regular basis - we're looking into it. M On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:15:09 -0800, Alan Williams wrote: > Sebastien Carrere wrote: >> Bonjour, >> it was okay yesterday afternonn, but today it seems down again. > > It is not visible from Manchester, UK either. > >> Sebastien > > Alan > > > _______________________________________________ > MOBY-dev mailing list > MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org > http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev -- Mark D Wilkinson, PI Bioinformatics Assistant Professor, Medical Genetics The James Hogg iCAPTURE Centre for Cardiovascular and Pulmonary Research Providence Heart + Lung Institute University of British Columbia - St. Paul's Hospital Vancouver, BC, Canada From alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk Thu Jan 28 17:45:32 2010 From: alanrw at cs.man.ac.uk (Alan Williams) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:45:32 +0000 Subject: [MOBY-dev] moby central down ? In-Reply-To: References: <4B5FECD4.6020300@toulouse.inra.fr> <1264579456.21414.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4B613E07.4070509@toulouse.inra.fr> <4B61B80D.8070903@cs.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4B61CD3C.10805@cs.man.ac.uk> Mark Wilkinson wrote: > Try now... > > Looks like something is bringing it down on a regular basis - we're > looking into it. It's now visible from Manchester, UK. > M Alan From chapmanb at 50mail.com Thu Jan 28 20:35:05 2010 From: chapmanb at 50mail.com (Brad Chapman) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:35:05 -0500 Subject: [MOBY-dev] OpenBio solution challenge: Project updates at BOSC 2010 Message-ID: <20100128203505.GG40046@sobchak.mgh.harvard.edu> Hello all; The BOSC 2010 organizing committee is hard at work getting prepared for this July's meeting in Boston: http://www.open-bio.org/wiki/BOSC_2010 One of the items we've traditionally had at the conference is a project update from each of the OpenBio affiliated groups. This year, we're thinking about organizing these talks around a central theme: the OpenBio solution challenge. We start with a biological question of general interest, and each of the project talks would focus around how you would solve that problem using your toolkit and programming language. This is meant to provide a challenge for OpenBio contributors, a nice tutorial style overview of various projects and approaches for other programmers, and a fun opportunity to compete and learn from other projects. Conference attendees will vote on their favorite solution, with the winner receiving fame and fortune (warning: fortune not guaranteed). For this to be successful, it of course requires interest and enthusiasm from y'all fine folks involved with the projects. Specifically: - Is there interest from your group in participating in the challenge? You'll want at least a few people to work on it, and someone to give a presentation at BOSC. - Do you have suggestions on a good theme or specific biological problem to tackle? We'll hope to pick something in a sweet spot that is challenging enough to be of interest, yet reasonable for presentation and preparation. Let's discuss ideas and get this together. Since the schedule for BOSC is developing rapidly, please give us an idea if you're interested by February 12th, and copy responses to the BOSC mailing list as a central place for discussion. bosc at open-bio.org Thanks, Brad, Michael, and the BOSC organizing committee From markw at illuminae.com Thu Jan 28 21:16:21 2010 From: markw at illuminae.com (Mark Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:16:21 -0800 Subject: [MOBY-dev] OpenBio solution challenge: Project updates at BOSC 2010 In-Reply-To: <20100128203505.GG40046@sobchak.mgh.harvard.edu> References: <20100128203505.GG40046@sobchak.mgh.harvard.edu> Message-ID: Brad, this sounds exciting! One thing strikes me, though - by asking for the sub-projects to propose the "grand challenge" themselves the one thing you can guarantee is that the "grand challenge" is solvable (or more likely, already solved!) Other "grand challenge" kinds of meetings have an independent third party pose the problem that has to be solved, and then all groups work toward a solution and compare their results. This would, IMO, be more revealing of the "state of the art" in each Open-Bio project, and point out where the weaknesses are that we should be focusing on... Someone (for example, you!) could act as the moderator to ensure that the "grand challenge" was at least a reasonable one, within the scope of what an Open-Bio project *should* be able to solve... Just my CAD $0.02 Mark On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:35:05 -0800, Brad Chapman wrote: > Hello all; > The BOSC 2010 organizing committee is hard at work getting prepared for > this > July's meeting in Boston: > > http://www.open-bio.org/wiki/BOSC_2010 > > One of the items we've traditionally had at the conference is a project > update from each of the OpenBio affiliated groups. This year, we're > thinking > about organizing these talks around a central theme: the OpenBio solution > challenge. We start with a biological question of general interest, and > each > of the project talks would focus around how you would solve that problem > using your toolkit and programming language. > > This is meant to provide a challenge for OpenBio contributors, a nice > tutorial > style overview of various projects and approaches for other programmers, > and a > fun opportunity to compete and learn from other projects. Conference > attendees > will vote on their favorite solution, with the winner receiving fame and > fortune (warning: fortune not guaranteed). > > For this to be successful, it of course requires interest and enthusiasm > from > y'all fine folks involved with the projects. Specifically: > > - Is there interest from your group in participating in the challenge? > You'll > want at least a few people to work on it, and someone to give a > presentation > at BOSC. > > - Do you have suggestions on a good theme or specific biological problem > to > tackle? We'll hope to pick something in a sweet spot that is > challenging > enough to be of interest, yet reasonable for presentation and > preparation. > > Let's discuss ideas and get this together. Since the schedule for BOSC is > developing rapidly, please give us an idea if you're interested by > February 12th, and copy responses to the BOSC mailing list as a central > place for discussion. > > bosc at open-bio.org > > Thanks, > Brad, Michael, and the BOSC organizing committee > _______________________________________________ > MOBY-dev mailing list > MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org > http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev -- Mark D Wilkinson, PI Bioinformatics Assistant Professor, Medical Genetics The James Hogg iCAPTURE Centre for Cardiovascular and Pulmonary Research Providence Heart + Lung Institute University of British Columbia - St. Paul's Hospital Vancouver, BC, Canada