[MOBY-dev] A Demonstration at ISMB?

[Pieter Neerincx]

Hi,

On  11 Jan 2008, at 10:00, Andreas Groscurth wrote:

> If this is appropiate and enough for a part of the Moby  
> demonstration - I
> would like to point to my Aggregator Jabba
> ( http://bioinfo.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/jabba ).

Hey, I haven't seen this Jabba before... Shouldn't it be listed on  
the BioMOBY site at http://biomoby.open-bio.org/index.php/ 
browser_clients/ ?

> I think, and support what Pieter already said, a demonstration of  
> available
> cool tools would be nice to spread out more of Moby into the world....
>
> And... WE HAVE T-SHIRTS ?! cool *g

Not yet as far as I know, but it would be a really good way to make  
some advertisement for BioMOBY. The last two years of ISMB there were  
two booths that received an enormous amount of attention for a while.  
Those were the BMC and PLoS booths when they were handing out free t- 
shirts. At the PLoS booth it was so hectic, people were almost  
fighting over those shirts. The next few days you saw people all over  
the conference and city center with those shirts :)

With regard to a demo, I think the $400 is bullshit. Previously they  
didn't charge extra for that. They started to do that last year. The  
conference itself is already very expensive, but well worth it. No- 
one who gets selected for the PloS-track, highlights-track, poster- 
track, etc. has to pay extra to be able to present. So why the hell  
would you have to for a software demo? The problem with the software  
demo's is that a lot of previously demoed stuff was not freely  
available to the scientific community. Even if it was presented by a  
non-profit organisation, there was quite some closed source stuff for  
which you had to buy a licence. Hence, they must have figured they  
could charge us for a demo if we are going to make money from this  
software.

I complained about it last year and asked the organisation to charge  
only for closed source payware and not for open source freeware.  
Unfortunately they didn't change the rules, so I think a demo is a  
good thing to do, but as long as we can get some papers in the  
highlight- and/or PLoS-track, we can just show stuff there. Whether  
the audience is looking at a beamer with a static PowerPoint slide  
with a screenshot of Taverna/MOWServ/SeaHawk or whether this is  
Taverna/MOWServ/SeaHawk live on a beamer is not that much different  
anyway. Then there is off course also the BOSC as SIG in the two days  
preceding the main ISMB conference. Since the BOSC is organised by  
the OBF and BioMOBY is an OBF project we should be able to get some  
substantial airtime there as well :). Getting charged extra while we  
spend our time to make this stuff freely available to the scientific  
community really feels to me like a slap into my face. Maybe some are  
fine with this, but I don't like spanking, so I'd rather spend the  
money on shirts...

Cheers,

Pi

> Andreas
>
> On Thursday 10 January 2008 23:53, Mark Wilkinson wrote:
>> I wonder if it might be worth doing a demonstration at ISMB, or  
>> maybe a
>> couple, using the various software tools we have (e.g. Taverna,  
>> MOWServ,
>> SeaHawk).
>>
>> It only costs $400 if we are selected, and the deadline is further  
>> along
>> in the year so it isn't as frantic.
>>
>> http://www.iscb.org/ismb2008/sub_demonstrations.php
>>
>> ??  Anyone interested?  If not, I'm certainly going to try to get  
>> us in
>> for teh Moby extensions to Taverna at least, but it would be good to
>> partner with someone else who has a different Moby interface so that
>> people can see a broader view of what can be done.
>>
>> It would be a good place to hand-out T-shirts too ;-)
>>
>> Mark
>
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