[MOBY-dev] A Demonstration at ISMB?
Pieter Neerincx
Pieter.Neerincx at wur.nl
Fri Jan 11 10:40:20 UTC 2008
Hi,
On 11 Jan 2008, at 10:00, Andreas Groscurth wrote:
> If this is appropiate and enough for a part of the Moby
> demonstration - I
> would like to point to my Aggregator Jabba
> ( http://bioinfo.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/jabba ).
Hey, I haven't seen this Jabba before... Shouldn't it be listed on
the BioMOBY site at http://biomoby.open-bio.org/index.php/
browser_clients/ ?
> I think, and support what Pieter already said, a demonstration of
> available
> cool tools would be nice to spread out more of Moby into the world....
>
> And... WE HAVE T-SHIRTS ?! cool *g
Not yet as far as I know, but it would be a really good way to make
some advertisement for BioMOBY. The last two years of ISMB there were
two booths that received an enormous amount of attention for a while.
Those were the BMC and PLoS booths when they were handing out free t-
shirts. At the PLoS booth it was so hectic, people were almost
fighting over those shirts. The next few days you saw people all over
the conference and city center with those shirts :)
With regard to a demo, I think the $400 is bullshit. Previously they
didn't charge extra for that. They started to do that last year. The
conference itself is already very expensive, but well worth it. No-
one who gets selected for the PloS-track, highlights-track, poster-
track, etc. has to pay extra to be able to present. So why the hell
would you have to for a software demo? The problem with the software
demo's is that a lot of previously demoed stuff was not freely
available to the scientific community. Even if it was presented by a
non-profit organisation, there was quite some closed source stuff for
which you had to buy a licence. Hence, they must have figured they
could charge us for a demo if we are going to make money from this
software.
I complained about it last year and asked the organisation to charge
only for closed source payware and not for open source freeware.
Unfortunately they didn't change the rules, so I think a demo is a
good thing to do, but as long as we can get some papers in the
highlight- and/or PLoS-track, we can just show stuff there. Whether
the audience is looking at a beamer with a static PowerPoint slide
with a screenshot of Taverna/MOWServ/SeaHawk or whether this is
Taverna/MOWServ/SeaHawk live on a beamer is not that much different
anyway. Then there is off course also the BOSC as SIG in the two days
preceding the main ISMB conference. Since the BOSC is organised by
the OBF and BioMOBY is an OBF project we should be able to get some
substantial airtime there as well :). Getting charged extra while we
spend our time to make this stuff freely available to the scientific
community really feels to me like a slap into my face. Maybe some are
fine with this, but I don't like spanking, so I'd rather spend the
money on shirts...
Cheers,
Pi
> Andreas
>
> On Thursday 10 January 2008 23:53, Mark Wilkinson wrote:
>> I wonder if it might be worth doing a demonstration at ISMB, or
>> maybe a
>> couple, using the various software tools we have (e.g. Taverna,
>> MOWServ,
>> SeaHawk).
>>
>> It only costs $400 if we are selected, and the deadline is further
>> along
>> in the year so it isn't as frantic.
>>
>> http://www.iscb.org/ismb2008/sub_demonstrations.php
>>
>> ?? Anyone interested? If not, I'm certainly going to try to get
>> us in
>> for teh Moby extensions to Taverna at least, but it would be good to
>> partner with someone else who has a different Moby interface so that
>> people can see a broader view of what can be done.
>>
>> It would be a good place to hand-out T-shirts too ;-)
>>
>> Mark
>
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