[MOBY-dev] http://mobycentral.icapture.ubc.ca:8090/authority/ValidateService?getDeadServices

[Paul Gordon]

So if we want a findService request to be able to report only alive 
services (the simplest solution, which is backward compatible), you'd 
need to regularly dump validateService's table into MobyCentral's SQL 
DB, right?  Is that hard?  For the moment, I'll use ValidateService's 
output in jMOBY, but I think it'd be nice to have such functionality as 
part of the official API in the long run...
> Currently, it's held in memory.
>
> So if the registry wanted it, it would have to call the url. But since the
> url isn't in the api, it might be unwise to do so.
>
> Eddie
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: moby-dev-bounces at lists.open-bio.org [mailto:moby-dev-
>> bounces at lists.open-bio.org] On Behalf Of Paul Gordon
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:31 PM
>> To: Core developer announcements
>> Subject: Re: [MOBY-
>> dev]http://mobycentral.icapture.ubc.ca:8090/authority/ValidateService?getD
>> eadServices
>>
>> But when I run
>>
>> http://mobycentral.icapture.ubc.ca:8090/authority/ValidateService
>>
>> I get all services back in about 1 second, so you must hold that info
>> somewhere that the registry can use it...
>>
>>     
>>> Okay, adding that information into findservice wont actually speed
>>>       
>> things
>>     
>>> up, because the code will have to get that information somewhere. That
>>> somewhere is from lsid ... so the question is, what came first the
>>>       
>> chicken
>>     
>>> or the egg ;-)
>>>
>>> Seriously though, if you want to include this info, isALive will have to
>>> become part of the api and be stored in the db. Otherwise, you might
>>>       
>> save
>>     
>>> 1-4 seconds, and still wait 6 seconds per service.
>>>
>>> Eddie
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: moby-dev-bounces at lists.open-bio.org [mailto:moby-dev-
>>>> bounces at lists.open-bio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Wilkinson
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:34 PM
>>>> To: Core developer announcements
>>>> Subject: Re: [MOBY-
>>>>
>>>>         
>> dev]http://mobycentral.icapture.ubc.ca:8090/authority/ValidateService?getD
>>     
>>>> eadServices
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:30:47 -0700, Edward Kawas
>>>>         
>> <edward.kawas at gmail.com>
>>     
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> Hey, that takes into account the whole LSID resolution protocol!
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> Sure, but that's what I mean!  If Paul is discovering 100 services, at
>>>>         
>> 10
>>     
>>>> seconds per service, his users are going to delete Seahawk from their
>>>> hard-drives faster than they even get their first pop-up menu!
>>>>
>>>> I'm not laying blame, I'm just pointing out that we have to either make
>>>> the LSID stuff run a whole lot faster (like 100X), or we have to
>>>>         
>> abandon
>>     
>>>> it for the time being because it really isn't helping... (and you know
>>>> that I *love* LSIDs!)
>>>>
>>>> M
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