From gllambi at fing.edu.uy  Thu Jul  1 12:43:56 2010
From: gllambi at fing.edu.uy (Guzman Llambias - INCO)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:43:56 -0300
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
Message-ID: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>

Hi!!

I've been using Taverna with biomoby plug-in and saw that it was a bit  
limited compared to the full power of biomoby. You can't search  
services looking at the output type, type of service or keywords.  
Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) Also, I read some posts that said  
that the biomoby founders would put more work on SADI and leave their  
work on biomoby. So, my questions are:

- what's going to happen to Taverna's biomoby plug-in?
- is there going to be support and updates?

Thanks!
Guzm?n



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Facultad de Ingenieria - UR - URUGUAY


From markw at illuminae.com  Thu Jul  1 13:14:14 2010
From: markw at illuminae.com (Mark)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:14:14 -0700
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
In-Reply-To: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>
References: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>
Message-ID: <op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>

The answer is "yes" :-)  We're not *abandoning* biomoby, but there's  
really not much left to do... the project pretty much runs itself,and  
there are many people around the world writing support packages for it.   
So, we will certainly respond to bug reports and will pursue (or at least,  
help you help yourself) if you have new feature requests.  There are many  
people out there using it, so it will continue to live for a long time!!   
We still teach biomoby/taverna in our national bioinformatics courses, so  
we will NOT be walking away from it!  However, the technology is almost 10  
years old now, so we (my lab) are quite anxious to move forward with more  
powerful and standards-compliant technologies (like SADI!).

regarding the biomoby plugin limitations:  You can search based on input  
type or output type (not both), but you are correct that you cannot  
restrict your search by type.  keyword searches are not available inside  
of the plugin, but keyword searches can be done in taverna's service tree  
window.

Mark



On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:43:56 -0700, Guzman Llambias - INCO  
<gllambi at fing.edu.uy> wrote:

> Hi!!
>
> I've been using Taverna with biomoby plug-in and saw that it was a bit
> limited compared to the full power of biomoby. You can't search
> services looking at the output type, type of service or keywords.
> Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) Also, I read some posts that said
> that the biomoby founders would put more work on SADI and leave their
> work on biomoby. So, my questions are:
>
> - what's going to happen to Taverna's biomoby plug-in?
> - is there going to be support and updates?
>
> Thanks!
> Guzm?n
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Enviado usando el Servicio de Correo Web
> Facultad de Ingenieria - UR - URUGUAY
>
> _______________________________________________
> MOBY-dev mailing list
> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org
> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev

From gllambi at fing.edu.uy  Thu Jul  1 16:44:18 2010
From: gllambi at fing.edu.uy (Guzman Llambias - INCO)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:44:18 -0300
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
In-Reply-To: <op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>
References: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>
	<op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>
Message-ID: <20100701174418.125946ltxztjl728@www.fing.edu.uy>

Hi Mark!!! Thank you very much for your quick answer! You were very helpfull!

Best luck with your new project!

regards
Guzm?n

Mark <markw at illuminae.com> escribi?:

> The answer is "yes" :-)  We're not *abandoning* biomoby, but there's  
> really not much left to do... the project pretty much runs  
> itself,and there are many people around the world writing support  
> packages for it.  So, we will certainly respond to bug reports and  
> will pursue (or at least, help you help yourself) if you have new  
> feature requests.  There are many people out there using it, so it  
> will continue to live for a long time!!  We still teach  
> biomoby/taverna in our national bioinformatics courses, so we will  
> NOT be walking away from it!  However, the technology is almost 10  
> years old now, so we (my lab) are quite anxious to move forward with  
> more powerful and standards-compliant technologies (like SADI!).
>
> regarding the biomoby plugin limitations:  You can search based on  
> input type or output type (not both), but you are correct that you  
> cannot restrict your search by type.  keyword searches are not  
> available inside of the plugin, but keyword searches can be done in  
> taverna's service tree window.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:43:56 -0700, Guzman Llambias - INCO  
> <gllambi at fing.edu.uy> wrote:
>
>> Hi!!
>>
>> I've been using Taverna with biomoby plug-in and saw that it was a bit
>> limited compared to the full power of biomoby. You can't search
>> services looking at the output type, type of service or keywords.
>> Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) Also, I read some posts that said
>> that the biomoby founders would put more work on SADI and leave their
>> work on biomoby. So, my questions are:
>>
>> - what's going to happen to Taverna's biomoby plug-in?
>> - is there going to be support and updates?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Guzm?n
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Enviado usando el Servicio de Correo Web
>> Facultad de Ingenieria - UR - URUGUAY
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> MOBY-dev mailing list
>> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org
>> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev
>



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From vickymr at uma.es  Fri Jul  2 05:16:30 2010
From: vickymr at uma.es (Victoria Martin Requena)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:16:30 +0200
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
In-Reply-To: <op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>
References: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>
	<op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>
Message-ID: <4C2DAE6E.6080702@uma.es>

Hi!

In our INB node we have developed an "advanced search tool" named 
Magallanes,
Magallanes is able to search for Web Services using keywords and other 
procedures and
also has a module to perform automatic workflow composition from an 
input data-type to a output
datatype (available for BioMoby repositories and others).
You can read about some of its features at: 
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2105/10/334
Perhaps it may be useful for your tasks.

You can download and use it from: 
http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/magallanes/  or from jORCA: 
http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/jorca/
where you can automatically launch to execution the workflows found by 
Magallanes.

Best regards,
Vicky

El 01/07/2010 19:14, Mark escribi?:
> The answer is "yes" :-)  We're not *abandoning* biomoby, but there's 
> really not much left to do... the project pretty much runs itself,and 
> there are many people around the world writing support packages for 
> it.  So, we will certainly respond to bug reports and will pursue (or 
> at least, help you help yourself) if you have new feature requests.  
> There are many people out there using it, so it will continue to live 
> for a long time!!  We still teach biomoby/taverna in our national 
> bioinformatics courses, so we will NOT be walking away from it!  
> However, the technology is almost 10 years old now, so we (my lab) are 
> quite anxious to move forward with more powerful and 
> standards-compliant technologies (like SADI!).
>
> regarding the biomoby plugin limitations:  You can search based on 
> input type or output type (not both), but you are correct that you 
> cannot restrict your search by type.  keyword searches are not 
> available inside of the plugin, but keyword searches can be done in 
> taverna's service tree window.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:43:56 -0700, Guzman Llambias - INCO 
> <gllambi at fing.edu.uy> wrote:
>
>> Hi!!
>>
>> I've been using Taverna with biomoby plug-in and saw that it was a bit
>> limited compared to the full power of biomoby. You can't search
>> services looking at the output type, type of service or keywords.
>> Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) Also, I read some posts that said
>> that the biomoby founders would put more work on SADI and leave their
>> work on biomoby. So, my questions are:
>>
>> - what's going to happen to Taverna's biomoby plug-in?
>> - is there going to be support and updates?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Guzm?n
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Enviado usando el Servicio de Correo Web
>> Facultad de Ingenieria - UR - URUGUAY
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> MOBY-dev mailing list
>> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org
>> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev
> _______________________________________________
> MOBY-dev mailing list
> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org
> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev
>


-- 
Victoria Mart?n Requena
Computer Architecture Dept.
University of Malaga, Spain
ETSI Informatica
Telf. +34 952 13 7651

Edificio de Bioinnovaci?n
C/ Severo Ochoa - 34
Parque Tecnol?gico de Andaluc?a,
29590, Malaga
mailto:vickymr at ac.uma.es

-- 



From markw at illuminae.com  Fri Jul  2 13:24:25 2010
From: markw at illuminae.com (Mark)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 10:24:25 -0700
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
In-Reply-To: <4C2DAE6E.6080702@uma.es>
References: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>
	<op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome> <4C2DAE6E.6080702@uma.es>
Message-ID: <op.ve77yzg7deqt07@bighome>

Hear Hear!!  Magallanes is an AMAZING tool!!

I wonder if your team could work together with Eddie and I to implement  
some of those ideas as a Taverna plugin??

Let's talk about it :-)

Mark



On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 02:16:30 -0700, Victoria Martin Requena  
<vickymr at uma.es> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> In our INB node we have developed an "advanced search tool" named
> Magallanes,
> Magallanes is able to search for Web Services using keywords and other
> procedures and
> also has a module to perform automatic workflow composition from an
> input data-type to a output
> datatype (available for BioMoby repositories and others).
> You can read about some of its features at:
> http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2105/10/334
> Perhaps it may be useful for your tasks.
>
> You can download and use it from:
> http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/magallanes/  or from jORCA:
> http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/jorca/
> where you can automatically launch to execution the workflows found by
> Magallanes.
>
> Best regards,
> Vicky
>
> El 01/07/2010 19:14, Mark escribi?:
>> The answer is "yes" :-)  We're not *abandoning* biomoby, but there's
>> really not much left to do... the project pretty much runs itself,and
>> there are many people around the world writing support packages for
>> it.  So, we will certainly respond to bug reports and will pursue (or
>> at least, help you help yourself) if you have new feature requests.
>> There are many people out there using it, so it will continue to live
>> for a long time!!  We still teach biomoby/taverna in our national
>> bioinformatics courses, so we will NOT be walking away from it!
>> However, the technology is almost 10 years old now, so we (my lab) are
>> quite anxious to move forward with more powerful and
>> standards-compliant technologies (like SADI!).
>>
>> regarding the biomoby plugin limitations:  You can search based on
>> input type or output type (not both), but you are correct that you
>> cannot restrict your search by type.  keyword searches are not
>> available inside of the plugin, but keyword searches can be done in
>> taverna's service tree window.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:43:56 -0700, Guzman Llambias - INCO
>> <gllambi at fing.edu.uy> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!!
>>>
>>> I've been using Taverna with biomoby plug-in and saw that it was a bit
>>> limited compared to the full power of biomoby. You can't search
>>> services looking at the output type, type of service or keywords.
>>> Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) Also, I read some posts that said
>>> that the biomoby founders would put more work on SADI and leave their
>>> work on biomoby. So, my questions are:
>>>
>>> - what's going to happen to Taverna's biomoby plug-in?
>>> - is there going to be support and updates?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Guzm?n
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> Enviado usando el Servicio de Correo Web
>>> Facultad de Ingenieria - UR - URUGUAY
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> MOBY-dev mailing list
>>> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org
>>> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> MOBY-dev mailing list
>> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org
>> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev
>>
>

From ortrelles at uma.es  Mon Jul  5 03:40:51 2010
From: ortrelles at uma.es (Oswaldo Trelles)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 09:40:51 +0200
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
In-Reply-To: <op.ve77yzg7deqt07@bighome>
References: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>	<op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>
	<4C2DAE6E.6080702@uma.es> <op.ve77yzg7deqt07@bighome>
Message-ID: <4C318C83.3080404@uma.es>

thank you very much mark for your enthusiastic support, and the answer 
is easy; yes, of course we are interested in such plugins, but better in 
a 2ways plugging (i.e. include some taverna functionality into jORCA as 
a jORCA pugin)

best regards, O



Mark Mark escribi?:
> Hear Hear!!  Magallanes is an AMAZING tool!!
>
> I wonder if your team could work together with Eddie and I to 
> implement some of those ideas as a Taverna plugin??
>
> Let's talk about it :-)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 02:16:30 -0700, Victoria Martin Requena 
> <vickymr at uma.es> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> In our INB node we have developed an "advanced search tool" named
>> Magallanes,
>> Magallanes is able to search for Web Services using keywords and other
>> procedures and
>> also has a module to perform automatic workflow composition from an
>> input data-type to a output
>> datatype (available for BioMoby repositories and others).
>> You can read about some of its features at:
>> http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2105/10/334
>> Perhaps it may be useful for your tasks.
>>
>> You can download and use it from:
>> http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/magallanes/  or from jORCA:
>> http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/jorca/
>> where you can automatically launch to execution the workflows found by
>> Magallanes.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Vicky
>>


From gllambi at fing.edu.uy  Thu Jul  1 16:43:56 2010
From: gllambi at fing.edu.uy (Guzman Llambias - INCO)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:43:56 -0300
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
Message-ID: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>

Hi!!

I've been using Taverna with biomoby plug-in and saw that it was a bit  
limited compared to the full power of biomoby. You can't search  
services looking at the output type, type of service or keywords.  
Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) Also, I read some posts that said  
that the biomoby founders would put more work on SADI and leave their  
work on biomoby. So, my questions are:

- what's going to happen to Taverna's biomoby plug-in?
- is there going to be support and updates?

Thanks!
Guzm?n



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Facultad de Ingenieria - UR - URUGUAY



From markw at illuminae.com  Thu Jul  1 17:14:14 2010
From: markw at illuminae.com (Mark)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:14:14 -0700
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
In-Reply-To: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>
References: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>
Message-ID: <op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>

The answer is "yes" :-)  We're not *abandoning* biomoby, but there's  
really not much left to do... the project pretty much runs itself,and  
there are many people around the world writing support packages for it.   
So, we will certainly respond to bug reports and will pursue (or at least,  
help you help yourself) if you have new feature requests.  There are many  
people out there using it, so it will continue to live for a long time!!   
We still teach biomoby/taverna in our national bioinformatics courses, so  
we will NOT be walking away from it!  However, the technology is almost 10  
years old now, so we (my lab) are quite anxious to move forward with more  
powerful and standards-compliant technologies (like SADI!).

regarding the biomoby plugin limitations:  You can search based on input  
type or output type (not both), but you are correct that you cannot  
restrict your search by type.  keyword searches are not available inside  
of the plugin, but keyword searches can be done in taverna's service tree  
window.

Mark



On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:43:56 -0700, Guzman Llambias - INCO  
<gllambi at fing.edu.uy> wrote:

> Hi!!
>
> I've been using Taverna with biomoby plug-in and saw that it was a bit
> limited compared to the full power of biomoby. You can't search
> services looking at the output type, type of service or keywords.
> Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) Also, I read some posts that said
> that the biomoby founders would put more work on SADI and leave their
> work on biomoby. So, my questions are:
>
> - what's going to happen to Taverna's biomoby plug-in?
> - is there going to be support and updates?
>
> Thanks!
> Guzm?n
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Enviado usando el Servicio de Correo Web
> Facultad de Ingenieria - UR - URUGUAY
>
> _______________________________________________
> MOBY-dev mailing list
> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org
> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev


From gllambi at fing.edu.uy  Thu Jul  1 20:44:18 2010
From: gllambi at fing.edu.uy (Guzman Llambias - INCO)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:44:18 -0300
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
In-Reply-To: <op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>
References: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>
	<op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>
Message-ID: <20100701174418.125946ltxztjl728@www.fing.edu.uy>

Hi Mark!!! Thank you very much for your quick answer! You were very helpfull!

Best luck with your new project!

regards
Guzm?n

Mark <markw at illuminae.com> escribi?:

> The answer is "yes" :-)  We're not *abandoning* biomoby, but there's  
> really not much left to do... the project pretty much runs  
> itself,and there are many people around the world writing support  
> packages for it.  So, we will certainly respond to bug reports and  
> will pursue (or at least, help you help yourself) if you have new  
> feature requests.  There are many people out there using it, so it  
> will continue to live for a long time!!  We still teach  
> biomoby/taverna in our national bioinformatics courses, so we will  
> NOT be walking away from it!  However, the technology is almost 10  
> years old now, so we (my lab) are quite anxious to move forward with  
> more powerful and standards-compliant technologies (like SADI!).
>
> regarding the biomoby plugin limitations:  You can search based on  
> input type or output type (not both), but you are correct that you  
> cannot restrict your search by type.  keyword searches are not  
> available inside of the plugin, but keyword searches can be done in  
> taverna's service tree window.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:43:56 -0700, Guzman Llambias - INCO  
> <gllambi at fing.edu.uy> wrote:
>
>> Hi!!
>>
>> I've been using Taverna with biomoby plug-in and saw that it was a bit
>> limited compared to the full power of biomoby. You can't search
>> services looking at the output type, type of service or keywords.
>> Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) Also, I read some posts that said
>> that the biomoby founders would put more work on SADI and leave their
>> work on biomoby. So, my questions are:
>>
>> - what's going to happen to Taverna's biomoby plug-in?
>> - is there going to be support and updates?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Guzm?n
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Enviado usando el Servicio de Correo Web
>> Facultad de Ingenieria - UR - URUGUAY
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> MOBY-dev mailing list
>> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org
>> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev
>



----------------------------------------
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Facultad de Ingenieria - UR - URUGUAY



From vickymr at uma.es  Fri Jul  2 09:16:30 2010
From: vickymr at uma.es (Victoria Martin Requena)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:16:30 +0200
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
In-Reply-To: <op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>
References: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>
	<op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>
Message-ID: <4C2DAE6E.6080702@uma.es>

Hi!

In our INB node we have developed an "advanced search tool" named 
Magallanes,
Magallanes is able to search for Web Services using keywords and other 
procedures and
also has a module to perform automatic workflow composition from an 
input data-type to a output
datatype (available for BioMoby repositories and others).
You can read about some of its features at: 
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2105/10/334
Perhaps it may be useful for your tasks.

You can download and use it from: 
http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/magallanes/  or from jORCA: 
http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/jorca/
where you can automatically launch to execution the workflows found by 
Magallanes.

Best regards,
Vicky

El 01/07/2010 19:14, Mark escribi?:
> The answer is "yes" :-)  We're not *abandoning* biomoby, but there's 
> really not much left to do... the project pretty much runs itself,and 
> there are many people around the world writing support packages for 
> it.  So, we will certainly respond to bug reports and will pursue (or 
> at least, help you help yourself) if you have new feature requests.  
> There are many people out there using it, so it will continue to live 
> for a long time!!  We still teach biomoby/taverna in our national 
> bioinformatics courses, so we will NOT be walking away from it!  
> However, the technology is almost 10 years old now, so we (my lab) are 
> quite anxious to move forward with more powerful and 
> standards-compliant technologies (like SADI!).
>
> regarding the biomoby plugin limitations:  You can search based on 
> input type or output type (not both), but you are correct that you 
> cannot restrict your search by type.  keyword searches are not 
> available inside of the plugin, but keyword searches can be done in 
> taverna's service tree window.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:43:56 -0700, Guzman Llambias - INCO 
> <gllambi at fing.edu.uy> wrote:
>
>> Hi!!
>>
>> I've been using Taverna with biomoby plug-in and saw that it was a bit
>> limited compared to the full power of biomoby. You can't search
>> services looking at the output type, type of service or keywords.
>> Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) Also, I read some posts that said
>> that the biomoby founders would put more work on SADI and leave their
>> work on biomoby. So, my questions are:
>>
>> - what's going to happen to Taverna's biomoby plug-in?
>> - is there going to be support and updates?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Guzm?n
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Enviado usando el Servicio de Correo Web
>> Facultad de Ingenieria - UR - URUGUAY
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> MOBY-dev mailing list
>> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org
>> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev
> _______________________________________________
> MOBY-dev mailing list
> MOBY-dev at lists.open-bio.org
> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/moby-dev
>


-- 
Victoria Mart?n Requena
Computer Architecture Dept.
University of Malaga, Spain
ETSI Informatica
Telf. +34 952 13 7651

Edificio de Bioinnovaci?n
C/ Severo Ochoa - 34
Parque Tecnol?gico de Andaluc?a,
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From markw at illuminae.com  Fri Jul  2 17:24:25 2010
From: markw at illuminae.com (Mark)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 10:24:25 -0700
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
In-Reply-To: <4C2DAE6E.6080702@uma.es>
References: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>
	<op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome> <4C2DAE6E.6080702@uma.es>
Message-ID: <op.ve77yzg7deqt07@bighome>

Hear Hear!!  Magallanes is an AMAZING tool!!

I wonder if your team could work together with Eddie and I to implement  
some of those ideas as a Taverna plugin??

Let's talk about it :-)

Mark



On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 02:16:30 -0700, Victoria Martin Requena  
<vickymr at uma.es> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> In our INB node we have developed an "advanced search tool" named
> Magallanes,
> Magallanes is able to search for Web Services using keywords and other
> procedures and
> also has a module to perform automatic workflow composition from an
> input data-type to a output
> datatype (available for BioMoby repositories and others).
> You can read about some of its features at:
> http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2105/10/334
> Perhaps it may be useful for your tasks.
>
> You can download and use it from:
> http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/magallanes/  or from jORCA:
> http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/jorca/
> where you can automatically launch to execution the workflows found by
> Magallanes.
>
> Best regards,
> Vicky
>
> El 01/07/2010 19:14, Mark escribi?:
>> The answer is "yes" :-)  We're not *abandoning* biomoby, but there's
>> really not much left to do... the project pretty much runs itself,and
>> there are many people around the world writing support packages for
>> it.  So, we will certainly respond to bug reports and will pursue (or
>> at least, help you help yourself) if you have new feature requests.
>> There are many people out there using it, so it will continue to live
>> for a long time!!  We still teach biomoby/taverna in our national
>> bioinformatics courses, so we will NOT be walking away from it!
>> However, the technology is almost 10 years old now, so we (my lab) are
>> quite anxious to move forward with more powerful and
>> standards-compliant technologies (like SADI!).
>>
>> regarding the biomoby plugin limitations:  You can search based on
>> input type or output type (not both), but you are correct that you
>> cannot restrict your search by type.  keyword searches are not
>> available inside of the plugin, but keyword searches can be done in
>> taverna's service tree window.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:43:56 -0700, Guzman Llambias - INCO
>> <gllambi at fing.edu.uy> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!!
>>>
>>> I've been using Taverna with biomoby plug-in and saw that it was a bit
>>> limited compared to the full power of biomoby. You can't search
>>> services looking at the output type, type of service or keywords.
>>> Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) Also, I read some posts that said
>>> that the biomoby founders would put more work on SADI and leave their
>>> work on biomoby. So, my questions are:
>>>
>>> - what's going to happen to Taverna's biomoby plug-in?
>>> - is there going to be support and updates?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Guzm?n
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From ortrelles at uma.es  Mon Jul  5 07:40:51 2010
From: ortrelles at uma.es (Oswaldo Trelles)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 09:40:51 +0200
Subject: [MOBY-dev] BioMoby Taverna plug-in status?
In-Reply-To: <op.ve77yzg7deqt07@bighome>
References: <20100701134356.123657srw7m6kbok@www.fing.edu.uy>	<op.ve6ct0t4deqt07@bighome>
	<4C2DAE6E.6080702@uma.es> <op.ve77yzg7deqt07@bighome>
Message-ID: <4C318C83.3080404@uma.es>

thank you very much mark for your enthusiastic support, and the answer 
is easy; yes, of course we are interested in such plugins, but better in 
a 2ways plugging (i.e. include some taverna functionality into jORCA as 
a jORCA pugin)

best regards, O



Mark Mark escribi?:
> Hear Hear!!  Magallanes is an AMAZING tool!!
>
> I wonder if your team could work together with Eddie and I to 
> implement some of those ideas as a Taverna plugin??
>
> Let's talk about it :-)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 02:16:30 -0700, Victoria Martin Requena 
> <vickymr at uma.es> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> In our INB node we have developed an "advanced search tool" named
>> Magallanes,
>> Magallanes is able to search for Web Services using keywords and other
>> procedures and
>> also has a module to perform automatic workflow composition from an
>> input data-type to a output
>> datatype (available for BioMoby repositories and others).
>> You can read about some of its features at:
>> http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2105/10/334
>> Perhaps it may be useful for your tasks.
>>
>> You can download and use it from:
>> http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/magallanes/  or from jORCA:
>> http://chirimoyo.ac.uma.es/jorca/
>> where you can automatically launch to execution the workflows found by
>> Magallanes.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Vicky
>>