<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don’t contribute to Biopython but I work on another open source project which makes heavy use of a solution called Zulip. <a href="https://zulip.com/" class="">https://zulip.com/</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There is some overhead, it’s self hosted, but we really love the combination of instantaneous chat with the email threading model that it provides.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Alister<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 30 Jun 2021, at 23:16, Martin Mokrejs <<a href="mailto:mmokrejs@fold.natur.cuni.cz" class="">mmokrejs@fold.natur.cuni.cz</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Dear all,<br class=""> me too, although I have to use Slack for a project I don't like it. And am on second slack channel to which which don't even login using a different email address. I don't have time to follow all the notices, sorry. If you wan to convert biopython-dev to Slack just do it, it affects few people. It is at least clearer than IRC. While shutting down the email list you will probably loose some readers. Myself I am not going to re-register. I guess others who won't speak will also just disregard if they stop receiving emails from the list.<br class=""><br class=""> I am loosing track of biopython development as I did not migrate apps to python3, did not switch away from matplotlib, well, do as you wish. I am not actively contributing so my participation is not really relevant. If it is time burden to maintain the virtuals running mailman etc., well, ...<br class=""><br class="">Best,<br class="">Martin<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 30/06/2021 23:38, Stéphane Téletchéa wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Dear all,<br class=""><br class="">I understand the arguments of all others,<br class=""><br class="">Le 28/06/2021 à 17:00, João Rodrigues a écrit :<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">An email is "passive": you subscribe and that's it, gets delivered to your inbox. It's also the lowest common denominator in terms of tech in the sense that everyone has/uses email.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">But yes, I'm probably more traditional, email is asynchronous and I like that.<br class=""><br class="">Personally I really HATE slack, too disperse for my brain, I've worked with it for one year and this was awful and very time consuming,<br class="">I'm also using regularly Mattermost and I also dislike it a lot. Students say it is wonderful, but this was really because we were confined<br class="">that I had accepted to work like this (taking too much time to be productive).<br class=""><br class="">Considering google groups, I also HATE it as google mail etc. I'm also concerned about the<br class="">"we cut without delay this service as we don't want to run it anymore" policy of Google that happened already on many of their past services.<br class=""><br class="">This is probably only me but I have a very well organised mail box with many synchronised mails (sometimes on one computer, sometimes on another one),<br class="">and that fits my needs.<br class=""><br class="">If you close the mailing list, then I'd follow, but the existing situation is ok to me.<br class=""><br class="">Considering the overhead of running different systems, I completely understand the need to leverage it,<br class="">but I'm not sure there are reliable long-term solutions really available.<br class=""><br class="">My 0.02 cents/pennies.<br class=""><br class="">Best,<br class=""><br class="">Stéphane<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Biopython mailing list - <a href="mailto:Biopython@biopython.org" class="">Biopython@biopython.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://mailman.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/biopython" class="">https://mailman.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/biopython</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>