<div dir="ltr">How about we start a Slack channel in OBF-BOSC regardless of other courses of action? Would probably be a good way to communicate quickly between users / developers.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 11:19 AM Peter Cock <<a href="mailto:p.j.a.cock@googlemail.com">p.j.a.cock@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">To be clear, the current OBF use of Google Groups is for things like<br>
the board, GSoC mentors, and BOSC committee (private groups, no public<br>
archive). I don't think we have any examples using a public Google<br>
Group (yet).<br>
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Peter<br>
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On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 4:34 PM Iddo Friedberg <<a href="mailto:idoerg@gmail.com" target="_blank">idoerg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Slack sounds useful for developers.. especially if you have a quick :"how to" question or need to solve a problem quickly. Less troublesome than the email list. Perhaps Google Groups AND a slack biopython channel, just like OBF does?<br>
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> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 12:02 PM Ivan Gregoretti <<a href="mailto:ivangreg@gmail.com" target="_blank">ivangreg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Migrating to Google groups sounds very appealing to this Biopython reader.<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you.<br>
>><br>
>> Ivan<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 11:00 AM João Rodrigues<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:j.p.g.l.m.rodrigues@gmail.com" target="_blank">j.p.g.l.m.rodrigues@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > My "issue" with having announcements in a blog or twitter or so (only) is that you have to make an active effort to read them as a user. I see your point with feeds (Feedly user here too) but it's an extra layer (in my opinion), and the more layers, the less involvement.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > An email is "passive": you subscribe and that's it, gets delivered to your inbox. It's also the lowest common denominator in terms of tech in the sense that everyone has/uses email.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Migrating to a Google group should be simple too, you can (could at least) subscribe automatically all the members of the current list so that there's no action necessary on their end.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > A segunda, 28/06/2021, 10:38, Peter Cock <<a href="mailto:p.j.a.cock@googlemail.com" target="_blank">p.j.a.cock@googlemail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> My goal is both reduce OBF maintenance, and better connect with the<br>
>> >> Biopython community - it seems this mailing list is sub-optimal on<br>
>> >> both front.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> As to consolidation/relocation, I was thinking blog (read only<br>
>> >> announcements), free-tier Slack (real-time interactions including<br>
>> >> user support), and Github (dev support and discussions). But maybe<br>
>> >> with the slow decline in news reader popularity (I personally have<br>
>> >> used Feedly ever since Google Reader was dropped), you're right and<br>
>> >> there is still a role for some kind of email based announcements list?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> (Note that some of the smaller non-public OBF mailing lists have for<br>
>> >> some time forwarded to private Google Groups; your suggestion would<br>
>> >> not be such a big upheaval)<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Peter<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 3:27 PM João Rodrigues<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:j.p.g.l.m.rodrigues@gmail.com" target="_blank">j.p.g.l.m.rodrigues@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > I understand your points.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > If the purpose is to reduce the load on OBF to maintain and host all these things, what about creating a single mailing list on google groups (free, archived, easy to use) and use that for announcements and an initial point of contact? You could then combine google group (announcements), free-tier Slack (real-time user support), and Github (dev support) and cover pretty much all corners with remote hosted tools that archive the most important conversations.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Never used Gitter or other chat platforms.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
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>> > <a href="https://mailman.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/biopython" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mailman.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/biopython</a><br>
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