<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>First, my apologies: I was writing from an address not on the mailling list, so you were not getting my comments (you can find them on the emails that replied to me). This should now be sorted</div><div><br></div><div>Second, I think it would be worthwhile to consider a module architecture and Bow's proposal could be a good starting point for a discussion</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Third, I suggest we start a wiki page on ideas about this.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Below some comments to Patrick's last email:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">2. I would prefer to put Biopython 2.0 into a separate package (rather than put the subpackage "v2" in the existing package). this way a user has the choice to only install Biopython 2.0 without 1.x. If a user wants to use both packages, he can install both packages and use them interchangeably, since 1.x uses the package name "Bio." and 2.0 uses "biopy"/"biopython".<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Separate package indeed.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
3. Although we plan to drop Python 2.x support not before 2020, we could drop it now for Biopython 2.0. Python 2.x user could use Biopython 1.x. I think dropping Python 2.0 support could be a great thing for Biopython 2.0 development, since we do not have to care and test for compatibility.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1, I think it would make no sense to support Python 2.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">5. Regarding the documentation, I agree that the API is more important than writing a tutorial.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1.</div><div>Also, I believe that the best format for the tutorial would be Jupyter notebooks.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
6. My proposed import structure won't import anything into the top level namespace. For example in case of my structure subpackage (padix-key/biopython) you need for example to type "from Bio.structure import AtomArray, superimpose" to get the tools to superimpose two structures. I think this is more convenient than "from Bio.structure.superimpose import superimpose" and "from Bio.structure.atoms import AtomArray".<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There might be some residual stuff on the top level (say, some exceptions, or at least an abstract one - among other stuff). Stuff that is shared by all modules</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
7. I'd still prefer to put modules for biological data files in the subpackage "files" (as proposed in the PDF), since this organisation allows for putting the base class "File" into a fitting place and it is further possible to add modules for files that are not represented by any other subpackage (sequence, structure, etc). Therefore I think this approach has a better potential for extensibility.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The File class could go on top-level. I think for extensibility we need to have files inside their modules: remember that we are talking about an extensible architecture (a la biogems) and external authors might have their own files. We do not want non-core modules to be monkey patching biopython.files (or any other core part of the namespace)</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
9. I personally do not use "pandas" and therefore I do not know if it is neccessary to add the package to the dependencies, but if this finds consensus it is fine for me.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am more talking about acceptable core dependencies. That does not need to be a dependency on the original release of biopython 2.0. It is just a list of packages that would be acceptable if someone wanted to use them on a future core package.</div><div>So if you prepare a core module with a new dependency (say pandas) you know that that would be not a constraint on accepting the module as core. Whereas your_obscure_package as a dependency would not be accepted.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
10. I suggest another dependency: The "requests" package provides utility for http requests, which can be useful for usage of online applications as well as database requests.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1</div><div>If this idea is accepted we would have to work on a list of packages that are OK. These would be highly mature, highly used packages in the python world. And maybe other stuff like pysam or pyvcf (highly mature in our field).</div><div><br></div><div>Tiago</div></div>
</div></div>