[Bioperl-l] removing BioPerl 1.x from CPAN ?

Tom Keller kellert at ohsu.edu
Thu Jan 20 20:43:10 UTC 2011


Would the entire Bio directory disappear?
How would one get modules that are not part of bioperl-live or the other main packages?
(for example Bio::Trace::ABIF)

thanks,
Tom
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> From: "Karger, Amir" <akarger at CGR.Harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Bioperl-l] Frame translation gets an extra aa?
> To: Chris Fields <cjfields at illinois.edu>
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>> From: Chris Fields [mailto:cjfields at illinois.edu]
>> 
>> I wrote: 
>>> there should be
>> some way to do either assuming or not assuming without too much
>> extra work.... the extra object copying
>> might be a problem if you were trying to write fast code, which
>> luckily I'm not in this case.
>> 
>> Fast code and BioPerl?  We're trying to make things faster, but
>> this may be more difficult in practice with the default OO system
>> (and a complete switch to Moose will be problematic in the short
>> term).
>> 
>> I have committed a fix to github for the above.  Basically, setting
>> either '-complete' or '-complete_codons' will fill out partial
>> codons and attempt to translate them, but this behavior is off by
>> default.  I think this makes sense, just from the perspective we
>> don't want unintended side-effects.
> 
> That makes sense to me. The truth is, there shouldn't be that many real life applications, as far as I can tell, where this bites people meaningfully. But having the option is nice.
> 
> -Amir
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> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:11:01 +0100
> From: Dave Messina <David.Messina at sbc.su.se>
> Subject: [Bioperl-l] removing BioPerl 1.x from CPAN ? request for
> 	comment
> To: Dave Messina <David.Messina at sbc.su.se>
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> Hi everybody,
> 
> As some of you have no doubt noticed, we have a persistent problem with users accidentally using BioPerl versions 1.4 and earlier. Although they've been placed on BackPAN, CPAN's archive for deprecated software, for some reason they still show up in CPAN search results.
> 
> It's frustrating for users to be directed to the wrong version of the software, adding another gotcha to an already too-complicated installation process. And to this day it generates support emails on this list.
> 
> As far as I know, the Ensembl Perl API still designates version 1.2.3 of BioPerl for use with it:
> 
> 	http://www.ensembl.org/info/docs/api/api_installation.html
> 
> (although in Chris Fields' testing, the Ensembl API worked just fine with the current BioPerl version, 1.6.x.)
> 
> 
> I intend to ask the CPAN admins to remove BioPerl 1.4 and earlier entirely. But before I do, I wanted to raise the issue here in case anyone objects. In particular, it'd be great if someone from Ensembl could weigh in on this. I should also point out that we have these earlier releases archived on github already, so they will still be available.
> 
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> Thanks,
> Dave
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